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Post  Yoni Ovadia on Thu Jan 22, 2009 1:36 am

Would you do it? At first I felt a little weird/geeky about doing something like this, but everytime I go to a restaurant and bring a nice bottle, I get bothered if they don't have good glassware.

There are 2 wonderul restaurants in my area that have a very minimal corkage fee. Their stems are horrible. Am I out of line bringing my own in for the whole table? Or should I just suck it up and drink out of their shit glasses?
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Post  Steve Saxon on Thu Jan 22, 2009 1:46 am

Yoni Ovadia wrote:Would you do it? At first I felt a little weird/geeky about doing something like this, but everytime I go to a restaurant and bring a nice bottle, I get bothered if they don't have good glassware.

There are 2 wonderul restaurants in my area that have a very minimal corkage fee. Their stems are horrible. Am I out of line bringing my own in for the whole table? Or should I just suck it up and drink out of their shit glasses?

If I'm bringing a good wine I'll bring stems. What's the point of drinking good wine if you can't smell it?

Kind of like half an orgasm.
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Post  Jack Bulkin on Thu Jan 22, 2009 1:50 am

Steve Saxon wrote:
Yoni Ovadia wrote:Would you do it? At first I felt a little weird/geeky about doing something like this, but everytime I go to a restaurant and bring a nice bottle, I get bothered if they don't have good glassware.

There are 2 wonderul restaurants in my area that have a very minimal corkage fee. Their stems are horrible. Am I out of line bringing my own in for the whole table? Or should I just suck it up and drink out of their shit glasses?

If I'm bringing a good wine I'll bring stems. What's the point of drinking good wine if you can't smell it?

Kind of like half an orgasm.

Steve, I didn't know you dated my ex. Watch out for her gun. tongue Shocked
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Post  steve albrecht on Thu Jan 22, 2009 2:20 am

Yoni Ovadia wrote:Would you do it? At first I felt a little weird/geeky about doing something like this, but everytime I go to a restaurant and bring a nice bottle, I get bothered if they don't have good glassware.

There are 2 wonderul restaurants in my area that have a very minimal corkage fee. Their stems are horrible. Am I out of line bringing my own in for the whole table? Or should I just suck it up and drink out of their shit glasses?

I agree that it really pisses me off when they have some really cheapo stems with a 5oz. bowl, but I have not been able to bring myself to bring my own......
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Post  Joe Hauck on Thu Jan 22, 2009 2:37 am

I've never been able to do it either, but maybe next since I now know others do..... such a lemming.
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Post  Jorge Henriquez on Thu Jan 22, 2009 2:53 am

Think about it this way: most restaurants that have crappy stems will probably NOT take offense at you bringing stems. In fact, you may be doing them a favor (less glasses to wash). I bring them here in New York to places that are not exactly highbrow but yet have great food and low to zero corkage.
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Post  P. Davis on Thu Jan 22, 2009 3:22 am

I do it all the time and it is never have an issue. Just curious, what restaurants? Gio Cucina?
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Post  Yoni Ovadia on Thu Jan 22, 2009 3:27 am

P. Davis wrote:I do it all the time and it is never have an issue. Just curious, what restaurants? Gio Cucina?

Cafe Bizou and Girasole. Cafe Bizou has $2 corkage, Girasole has ZERO Corkage.
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Post  P. Davis on Thu Jan 22, 2009 3:30 am

Yoni Ovadia wrote:
P. Davis wrote:I do it all the time and it is never have an issue. Just curious, what restaurants? Gio Cucina?

Cafe Bizou and Girasole. Cafe Bizou has $2 corkage, Girasole has ZERO Corkage.
I've brought stems to both places and never had an issue. Sounds like a mini offline is in order!
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Post  Yoni Ovadia on Thu Jan 22, 2009 3:39 am

P. Davis wrote:
Yoni Ovadia wrote:
P. Davis wrote:I do it all the time and it is never have an issue. Just curious, what restaurants? Gio Cucina?

Cafe Bizou and Girasole. Cafe Bizou has $2 corkage, Girasole has ZERO Corkage.
I've brought stems to both places and never had an issue. Sounds like a mini offline is in order!

Just let us know when and we're there. Don't worry, I should be able to control myself this time.... Embarassed Embarassed
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Post  Michael Bowden on Thu Jan 22, 2009 4:12 am

Bring stems all the time....no worries....plus it allows a consistency when tasting wines.
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Post  D. Morris on Thu Jan 22, 2009 4:45 am

I travel with a box of Riedel O's for BYOs in my area with crappy stems. Never had a problem.
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Post  Cris Whetstone on Thu Jan 22, 2009 10:21 am

Its actually kind of weird for me now to show up at a restaurant with good wine on the mind and not have stems. I think that goes for plenty of wine geeks at least in SoCal.

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Post  Bill Tex Landreth on Thu Jan 22, 2009 2:27 pm

For restaurants that I know have good stemware---no. BYOB and joints that have indestructable glasses--yeah.

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Post  Bob Wood on Thu Jan 22, 2009 2:29 pm

Stemware isn't generally an issue here, but I've brought stems when we're a large group and we're going to need several per person. The restaurant actually appreciates it then.

Gotta tell you though, the first time I felt like a REAL dork.
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Post  Ian Dorin on Thu Jan 22, 2009 2:41 pm

I usually bring my owns stems. If I have never been to the place before, I leave them in the car until I can assess the situation. If it's bad, I go get. I don't want to be insulting off the bat. There is an awesome Italian place in Edison, but the stems blow. I know lots of folks that regularly go there and bring stems, and they don't seem to mind. They won't clean them for you, so users beware.

I think it's more insulting that good restaurants don't have nice glasses than bringing your own. Just my 2 cents.

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Post  D. Morris on Thu Jan 22, 2009 3:02 pm

Ian Dorin wrote:I usually bring my owns stems. If I have never been to the place before, I leave them in the car until I can assess the situation. If it's bad, I go get. I don't want to be insulting off the bat. There is an awesome Italian place in Edison, but the stems blow. I know lots of folks that regularly go there and bring stems, and they don't seem to mind. They won't clean them for you, so users beware.

I think it's more insulting that good restaurants don't have nice glasses than bringing your own. Just my 2 cents.

Sounds like my MO re: initially leaving them in the car. I go to a great little BYO in Middlesex and have walked in with stems and decanters and the owners have just gotten used to it. In fact, they love the buzz we create when we come in with about 8 of us with boxes of stems/decanters and the multi-bottle wine totes. And they even run everything through their dishwasher for us on weeknights when they're not as busy.

Ian, what's the place in Edison?
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Post  Ian Dorin on Thu Jan 22, 2009 5:19 pm

Loucas, it's on 27 in Edison. Really good food, big portions, and well priced.

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Post  Robert Kenney on Fri Jan 23, 2009 12:05 am

Ian Dorin wrote:....I leave them in the car until I can assess the situation. If it's bad, I go get. I don't want to be insulting off the bat....

WHAT!!!!!? I would be lost without my stems. I clean them with bio-unscented-soap, and rinse with well-water. I always bring a Sommelier level, and most of the time it's the big Bordeaux guns.

However if I'm eating at El Bulli pirat I wouldn't dare...they serve the Somm. stems from the very beginning of the evening!

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Post  Otto Dobre on Fri Jan 23, 2009 12:56 am

Do it all the time when I know that the restaurant does not provide proper stemware.

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Post  Melissa McCall on Fri Jan 23, 2009 1:45 am

I haven't done it-- yet-- but I consider it every time I BYO. Most recently, when I took an old bottle of Riesling to a Thai place, and I feared they'd have terrible glasses. Their glasses were fine, but next time, I will take my own.

For those of you who do, do you have a special bag to carry your stems?
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Post  Steve Saxon on Fri Jan 23, 2009 1:48 am

Melissa McCall wrote:I haven't done it-- yet-- but I consider it every time I BYO. Most recently, when I took an old bottle of Riesling to a Thai place, and I feared they'd have terrible glasses. Their glasses were fine, but next time, I will take my own.

For those of you who do, do you have a special bag to carry your stems?

Melissa, I have a box of traveling stems so I just bring the box, and I know Phil has a 6 stem box with a built in handle.
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Post  Michael Bowden on Fri Jan 23, 2009 2:10 am

Melissa McCall wrote:
For those of you who do, do you have a special bag to carry your stems?

Ive got a specific bag that I use....im trying to find a picture...ill keep you updated.
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Post  Michael Bowden on Fri Jan 23, 2009 2:27 am

Melissa, this is the one that I use (I think, its hard to tell). The glasses that go in them fit just in where the six bottles would fit in, and then we put a kitchen towel on top where we can get in 2 more glasses, making the bag hold 8. Its nice and looks like any other bag.

http://www.imageryproducts.com/wine_carrier.shtml

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Post  Bob Wood on Fri Jan 23, 2009 3:11 am

Melissa, if you have the box they came in (Riedel, Spiegelau), just use that. Otherwise, if you're careful, go to Freddy's and get one of their free six-bottle wine carriers and use that.
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