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Post  Jorge Henriquez Thu Jan 22, 2009 3:01 am

Reading it in bits n pieces. Pretty good up to now. Anyone else take a stab at it?

Surprised to read he praises Beringer's Bancroft Ranch Merlot over Pride as the best in California.
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Post  mike pobega Thu Jan 22, 2009 2:13 pm

Its a great book, albeit a bit dated. (Unless theres a new one I hadn't heard of).
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Post  Bob Wood Thu Jan 22, 2009 2:21 pm

Jorge Henriquez wrote:Reading it in bits n pieces. Pretty good up to now. Anyone else take a stab at it?

Surprised to read he praises Beringer's Bancroft Ranch Merlot over Pride as the best in California.
I'm not. Matt is an interesting duck, but if there's one thing that defines him, it's his distaste for heavily-extracted, heavily-oaked wines. He's sort of the anti-Parker in that regard.

FWIW, I've tasted Pride at the winery and at some offlines I've attended, and I've never had one that didn't end up in the dump bucket.
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Post  Steve Saxon Thu Jan 22, 2009 2:31 pm

Has anyone tried the 92 and 93 Beringer Bancroft Merlot? Killer juice for about $30.
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Post  Jorge Henriquez Thu Jan 22, 2009 2:38 pm

Steve Saxon wrote:Has anyone tried the 92 and 93 Beringer Bancroft Merlot? Killer juice for about $30.

$30??? Wow. I'd drink some f***ing Merlot at that price. Wink
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Post  Bill Tex Landreth Thu Jan 22, 2009 2:42 pm

Steve Saxon wrote:Has anyone tried the 92 and 93 Beringer Bancroft Merlot? Killer juice for about $30.

I got on the Beringer bandwagon for the '94 Bancroft Ranch, so that is the oldest I have had. Still have some '97 and '99 sleeping somewhere. Always thought they were some of the best merlots to come out of Cali.
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Post  Steve Saxon Thu Jan 22, 2009 2:54 pm

Jorge Henriquez wrote:
Steve Saxon wrote:Has anyone tried the 92 and 93 Beringer Bancroft Merlot? Killer juice for about $30.

$30??? Wow. I'd drink some f***ing Merlot at that price. Wink

I don't know why merlot takes such a bashing....Petrus is merlot, french merlot but merlot.
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Post  Jorge Henriquez Thu Jan 22, 2009 2:56 pm

Steve Saxon wrote:I don't know why merlot takes such a bashing....Petrus is merlot, french merlot but merlot.

Just quoting Miles in Sideways genius. Razz
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Post  mike pobega Thu Jan 22, 2009 3:00 pm

30bucks? where?
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Post  Bill Tex Landreth Thu Jan 22, 2009 3:07 pm

mike pobega wrote:30bucks? where?

I think Steve is referring to the release price.
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Post  mike pobega Thu Jan 22, 2009 3:29 pm

Wasn't 30 dollars like $135 today?

Smile

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Post  mike pobega Thu Jan 22, 2009 3:32 pm

More....Merus.....
More...Blankiet.....(cheaper!)
More.....Maybach...
More....Schrader...
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Post  mike pobega Thu Jan 22, 2009 3:33 pm

Unless youre a winedisorder boy, than...
more yellowtail for you.
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Post  Bill Tex Landreth Thu Jan 22, 2009 3:35 pm

mike pobega wrote:Wasn't that like $135 in 1994?

Spectator has it at $29 a bottle on release back 1995.
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Post  mike pobega Thu Jan 22, 2009 3:38 pm

I meant in todays dollars. my mistake.....


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Post  Bill Tex Landreth Thu Jan 22, 2009 3:46 pm

Gotcha...

Havent' seen any recent Beringer HMBR Merlot locally. The 2004 PR Cab is $85 a bottle at Costco though.
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Post  mike pobega Thu Jan 22, 2009 3:58 pm

Thats a good deal indeed.
Such reliable great wine.
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Post  Bill Tex Landreth Thu Jan 22, 2009 4:09 pm

Beringer PR along with Opus One were my first "high end" forays into CA wine. Since learned my lesson regarding Opus, but still love the Beringer. Ed made some very strong wines between 1991 and 1997, and I bought them accordingly. After '98, I picked up a couple '01 and '02 bottles...nothing like the amount I got for '94 through '97 though. I might be tempted to get a lone '04 to see how it is doing.
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